<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 17/06/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Eliezer S. Yudkowsky</b> <<a href="mailto:sentience@pobox.com">sentience@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
No, that is not what I was attempting to say. (Several people made<br>this misinterpretation, but it should be obvious that I don't believe<br>in telepathy or any other nonstandard causal interaction between<br>separated copies.) Having lots of copies in some futures may or may
<br>not affect the apparent probability of ending up in those futures.<br>Does it? In which future will you (almost certainly) find yourself?<br><br>This is what I meant by "What does it feel like" - the most basic
<br>question of all science - what appears to you to happen, what sensory<br>information do you receive, when you run the experiment? All our<br>other models of the universe are constructed from this. I do not<br>exult in this state of affairs, and I think it reflects a lack of
<br>understanding in my mind more than anything fundamental in reality<br>itself - that is, I don't think sensory information really is<br>primitive, or anything like that - but for the present it is the only<br>way I can figure out how to describe rational reasoning.
<br><br>By "what does it feel like" I meant the most basic question of all<br>science - what appears to happen when you run the experiment? Do you<br>feel that you've repeatedly won the lottery, or never won at all?
<br>Standing outside, I can say with certitude, "so many copies experience<br>winning the lottery, and then merge; all other observers just see you<br>losing the lottery". And this sounds like a complete objective
<br>statement of what the universe is like. But what do you experience?<br>Does setting up this experiment make you win the lottery? After you<br>run the experiment, you'll know for yourself how reality works -<br>you'll either have experienced winning the lottery several times in a
<br>row, or not - but no outside observers will know, so what could you<br>have seen that they didn't? What causal force touched you and not them?<br></blockquote></div><br>This is exactly the point missed by those who would point to the uncontested third person describable facts and say, "Paradox? What paradox?".
<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Stathis Papaioannou