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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I don’t think that the film is about
the topic you are talking about. It is not about genetical engineering being
good or bad or about the possibilities of enhancement or if you want it. <span
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question like in “Amadeus”. What can you do if your wishes or dreams do not fit
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possibilities to genetics? The whole point of the film is that you cannot.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org
[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Anne Corwin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 23. </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>August 2007 04:51<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> ExI chat list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [ExI] GATTACA
discussed by the rest of the world</span></font><span lang=EN-GB
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I think part of the problem was that there was no way
for him to, you know, seek treatment for his heart condition in that
society. If you weren't perfect from birth, you were basically
screwed. And if you got into an accident (like Eugene or whatever his
name was) you were also screwed, because there were no real services or
treatments for people with acquired disabilities (plus, a colossal social
stigma). <br>
<br>
Though I agree the main character shouldn't have put other people's lives at
risk, I think the entire social structure they had in that movie was extremely
dystopian. I also think that level of social control would be impossible
in the real world, though. The whole film was mediocre fiction but not
much more.<br>
<br>
</span>- Anne<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Damien Broderick
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><http: www.gnovies.com="" discussion="" gattacca.html="">http://www.gnovies.com/discussion/gattacca.html
<br>
><br>
><br>
>There's more proof why no amount of funding or genius script can <br>
>produce an H+ movie for the masses.<br>
<br>
Actually I thought it was a shithouse movie (despite its prettiness), <br>
but not for any reason a tender hearted humanist would accept. The <br>
wonderful damaged natural human with a dud heart swims out after his <br>
(by hypothesis) supermanized gene-optimized big brother who's always <br>
(of course) beaten the pants off him before but is now about to <br>
drown, and saves him, driven by *sheer human dogged grit and pluck*! <br>
At the end, I dimly recall, he passes himself off as a standard <br>
superman for a trip to Mars or somethun, even though his heart will <br>
with p = 0.997 explode en route from the stress; instead of <br>
chastizing him for putting everyone else's lives at risk by bumping <br>
the real expert, we're meant to see this as a triumph for sheer human <br>
dogged grit and pluck, rather than selfish bastardry. Ah well. <br>
<br>
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