<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Samantha Atkins</b> <<a href="mailto:sjatkins@mac.com">sjatkins@mac.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Personally I don't use such simplistic labels for myself or anyone<br>else as "progressive". I thought we all claimed "upwinger" or some
<br>such anyway.</blockquote>
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<div>I do not like much the label myself. In Europe has strong, unilateral political connotation which presumes that history has a fixed, determinist course known in advance to the progressive thinker in cause, which can just be resisted or seconded. In fact, Christian fondamentalism itself would be progressive in the sense that history would be the progress of Providential plans in place. Secular versions of the concept do not improve much on the idea, IMHO.
</div><br>Stefano Vaj</div>