Hi,<br>ogni is not old Italian spelling. The Dante's sentence is how we would write it in modern italian. Ogni is an adverb and has just this form (no femminine form) so it is used for both masculine and femmine worrds, and it means literally "each single one" or every. In this case "ogni speranza" means " any and every hope".<br>Dante finds this sentence engraved on the front of the entrance to Inferno.<br>The reason why it is on back side of the entering door at the Italian airport could be interpreted, I think, to mean that if you leave Italy, you loose all your hopes. <br>Well, Italy can be both a paradise and a hell at the same time.<br>Utopia and distropia in one place.<br><br><br><b><i>Anna Taylor <femmechakra@yahoo.ca></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> --- Giu1i0 Pri5c0 <pgptag@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>> "Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch' entrate"<br>>
<br>> I would translate it as "abandon every hope" or<br>> "abandon any hope".<br>> <br>> The fun thing is that when Amara moved to Italy a<br>> few years ago I told<br>> her that this sentence, written in capital letters,<br>> appears on the<br>> exit door of the airport for those who enter Italy.<br>> <br>> G.<br><br>Well when entering Quebec, we say Bonjour:)<br>Anna:)<br><br><br><br>> <br>> On 10/29/07, Amara Graps <amara@amara.com> wrote:<br>> > Eliezer:<br>> > >Checked my version again. Still "Ogne". Not<br>> that I speak Italian.<br>> ><br>> > Then either it is a misspelling, or an example of<br>> Dante's old Italian.<br>> > It makes some sense, sort of. If one extends the<br>> singular/plural rules,<br>> > 'Ogne' could be a singular adjective masculine<br>> (but then speranza should<br>> > be masculine, and it's not.. hope is one of those<br>> singular feminine
things),<br>> > or a plural feminine adjective (but then speranza<br>> should be a mighty<br>> > plural speranze and it's not),<br>> ><br>> > ..and anyway ogne isn't listed in my 2003<br>> Garzanti (big dictionary<br>> > of today's Italian) or any of my other<br>> dictionaries.<br>> ><br>> > Amara<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > extropy-chat mailing list<br>> > extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br>> ><br>><br>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<br>> ><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> extropy-chat mailing list<br>> extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br>><br>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<br>> <br><br><br><br> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at
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