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At 07:58 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Keith wrote:<br>
On 12-12-07<br>
"Girl children don't have breasts. Babies don't talk or
walk. Yet<br>
all these products of evolution are widespread in adults (of the<br>
appropriate sex). Not to mention that moral emotions such as
shame<br>
emerge very early in children, about 3, when (in the EEA) they<br>
graduated from their mother's arms to the play group."<br>
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Hi, Keith before I respond to the above let me thank you for that <br>
picture of a young charming costumed girl you sent. First of all that
<br>
was not me and secondly I was not in any convention with costumed <br>
members. The conventions I attended were with Secular Humanists where
<br>
I've been a member for a decade now.</blockquote><br>
I didn't exactly send it. I sent a URL so your web browser could
pick it off an AOL web site that certainly looks like it is associated
with the email name you are using. You can get there in 3-4 steps
from putting citta437 in Google. If that's not something you know
about, you've been pwned. (An outside party who has "owned" or
"pwned" a system has obtained unauthorized administrative
control of the system.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwned" eudora="autourl">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwned</a>)<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I agree children are too young
to understand adults' obssessions about <br>
sex and morality. But as they grow into their teens, hormonal changes
<br>
are manifested in their body and behavior. However, babies start to <br>
develop a sense of self between the outside and their feelings of need
<br>
to be fed, to be touched and to communicate these needs. The feelings
<br>
of shame emerge soon or late depending on the structure of the brain's
<br>
ability to acquire language inorder to get enculturated.
</blockquote><br>
Dogs have feelings of shame and don't acquire language at all.<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Btw what is EEA?
</blockquote><br>
Environment of evolutionary adaptedness.<br><br>
". . . the EEA is defined as the set of historically recurring
selection pressures that formed a given adaptation, as well as those
aspects of the environment that were necessary for the proper development
and functioning of the adaptation. In the environment in which ducks
evolved, for example, attachment of ducklings to their mother had great
survival value for the ducklings. Because the first moving being that a
duckling was likely to see was its mother, a psychological mechanism that
evolved to form an attachment to the first moving being would therefore
properly function to form an attachment to the mother. In novel
environments, however, the mechanism can malfunction by forming an
attachment to a dog or human instead.<br><br>
"The genus
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_%28genus%29">Homo</a>, which
includes modern humans, appeared between 1.5 and 2.5 million years ago, a
time that roughly coincides with the start of the
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene">Pleistocene</a> 1.8
million years ago. Because the Pleistocene ended a mere 12,000 years ago,
most human adaptations either newly evolved during the Pleistocene, or
were maintained by stabilizing selection during the Pleistocene.
Evolutionary psychology therefore proposes that the majority of human
psychological mechanisms are adapted to reproductive problems frequently
encountered in Pleistocene environments. In broad terms, these problems
include those of growth, development, differentiation, maintenance,
mating, parenting, and social relationships. To properly understand human
mating psychology, for example, it is essential to recognize that in the
EEA (as now) women got pregnant and men did not.<br><br>
"If humans are mostly adapted to Pleistocene environments, then some
psychological mechanisms should occasionally exhibit “mismatches” to the
modern environment, similar to the attachment patterns of ducks. One
example is . . . <br><br>
"In sum, evolutionary psychology argues that to properly understand
the functions of the brain one must understand the properties of the
environment in which the brain evolved."
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology" eudora="autourl">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology<br><br>
</a>Adding a bit, the EEA isn't a single environment, but a weighted
composite of the physical and social environments in which our ancestors
reproduced.<br><br>
Evolutionary psychology is one of a considerable list of subjects you
need to know if you are going to understand what gets posted
here.<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Does it concern about the
evolution of ego? If so then ego or the <br>
sense of self is embedded in the genes what some evolutionary biologist
<br>
call the survival instinct which was inherited from the earliest <br>
organism that evolved.</blockquote><br>
" . . . the id-ego-superego construct gained such notoriety in
Freud's lifetime that it remains to this day a cultural shibboleth and a
common way for laypersons to consider or "understand" the human
subconscious. "<br><br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego" eudora="autourl">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego</a><br><br>
The term just isn't much used nowadays, not here anyway.<br><br>
Keith</body>
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