On Dec 24, 2007 9:21 PM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi John, I may be wrong about this, but it seems we still need chemical<br>rockets to get our nuclear Orion stages into LEO, so the launch of an Orion<br>would look like any other heavy lifter, such as the Lockheed/commie Proton.
<br>I don't see how we could control nuclear blasts of sufficient magnitude to<br>use them as a first or even second stage. There are too many unpredictable<br>factors if we are trying to accelerate a huge structure at a couple G (at
<br>least) via nuclear blasts and ablation. One such problem would be<br>asymmetric thrust, which would be manageable in deep space but a surely<br>catastrophic mission ender if it occurs while still in the thick air.</blockquote>
<div><br>No, actually from an engineering point of view it seemed feasible enough, especially if measures are not required to protect a crew (pulse absorbers, radiations shielding, etc.).<br><br>Single stage to Mars and beyond. According to calculations, a fission Orion could achieve 3-5% c, a fusion one 8-10% c. The only problem is the fallout.
<br><br>Stefano Vaj <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br>We would need to carry a few hundred tons of nukes and ablative material
<br>into LEO, assemble it there, and take off from LEO, ja? Then the maximum<br>acceleration would be a fraction of a G, a few tenths perhaps, over a large<br>number of pulses to eventually reach enormous delta Vee, the kind of delta
<br>Vee that makes rocket scientists awaken in a pleasantly aroused cold sweat.<br><br>{8^P---------w========V <--- (Me, dreaming of enormous delta V)<br><br>Have you any calcs to suggest otherwise? Do share.<br><font color="#888888">
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