<div>John K. Clark wrote:</div>
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<div>So am I. In many ways my introduction to proto-Transhumanist ideas came from Arthur C. Clarke. Between watching the film masterpiece "2001," and reading "Childhood's End" and my beloved "Profiles of the Future," I owe him such a debt of gratitude. </div>
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<div>What other prominent SF writers are out there that are old and/or in bad health and soon may die? </div>
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<div>Max More wrote:</div>
<div>When a real visionary like ACC passively and consciously accepts the<br>permanent extinction of natural death, I can't but help find it a bit<br>depressing. <br>>>></div>
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<div>I thought among old school Secular Humanists/Atheists that accepting death/oblivion of the self was seen as noble and even sort of "macho." </div>
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<div>I've heard that only a relatively tiny fraction of science fiction writers are signed up or at least even seriously interested in cryonics. A common notion among cryonicists/Transhumanists is that a SF writer would be vastly more prone toward wanting a cryonics policy but that does not seem to be the case. They may be great at imagining possible future worlds but that does not mean they really want to *live* in the reality of whatever our distant future is if it means upsetting friends, family and the status quo in an attempt to get there.</div>
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<div>Max More wrote:</div>
<div>Truly, I don't hold Clarke's decision against him (much). Still, it's<br>worth pointing out the cold underlying reality of his thinking.</div>
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<div>As cryonicists have pointed out, it's very ironic when a bestselling SF writer like Clarke declines being frozen and yet a humble tv repairman, etc., will grasp the opportunity and make arrangements to have it done when they die.</div>
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<div>Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote:</div>
<div>I think that as long as not signing up for cryonics for stupid reasons<br>remains socially acceptable, people are going to go on not signing up<br>for cryonics for stupid reasons. Only when they realize that everyone<br>
else is going to look at them like they're an idiot, will it occur to<br>them that they might be doing something idiotic.</div>
<div>What we need around here is more peer pressure. Friends don't let<br>friends die.</div>
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<div>Eliezer, are there smart reasons for not signing up for cryonics? lol I do like the idea of positive peer pressure to make sure "friends don't let friend die!" : ) I think this is why having local chapters of various Transhumanist/cryonicist groups is so important.</div>
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<div>Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote:</div>
<div>The following is a public service announcement:<br> PLEASE STOP DYING</div>
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<div>Sadly, this is still much easier said than done...</div>
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<div>John Grigg </div>
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