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Nice summary. SO clear and concise. I guess that's why I enhoy reading
your books! lol<br>
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Damien Broderick wrote:
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<pre wrap="">At 10:34 AM 3/28/2008 -0700, Michael Miller wrote in reply to JKC:
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<pre wrap="">the self and thoughts are not reducible to the machinery which
generates them, whatever that machinery may be. They are not
'reducible' at all, especially the self, as it is not an isolatable
thing. Therefore, to think that it can be 'transferred' from one set
of hardware to another is to posit some kind of supernatural or
metaphysical entity as the self. ...unless we're positing some kind
of non-physical essential self, how can uploading be any kind of
'transferrence' or 'sequel' other than a simulation?
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Well, an emulation. John Clark's view is indeed a magical
one--sympathetic magic, to be precise. This discussion has been going
on here for well over a decade, so it's not going to get anywhere.
But to me, the key issue remains this:
If a 1-to-1 mapping is made of you,
(a) will the mapping be convinced it's you?
(Answer: of course, by definition), and
(b) will you be convinced that the mapping over there is you, so that
you'd now be very relaxed about being obliterated, whichever one you are?
(Answer: you have to make up your own mind/s about that. My personal
reaction: are you fucking *nuts*?)
But John might well be correct that in a world where this tech is
routine, people who share my current reaction will swiftly die off,
overwhelmed by the growing numbers of those who *remember* being the
people they emulate and hence feel fine about it. (Just shoot that
terrified look-alike idiot and kick the corpse into the gutter? Maybe
not, there's no call to be harsh to your progenitor--but no reason to
be anxious over his death, either. Hey, the template's still in the uploader.)
Damien Broderick
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