<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Lee Corbin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lcorbin@rawbw.com">lcorbin@rawbw.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes, in certain kinds of things like this, an *extremely* highly objective<br>
view or summary is not possible to attain. <br>
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Moreover, I frankly disagree with your claim, at least when I<br>
emphasize a certain word there: "it [doesn't make sense] to<br>
*strive* for some kind of "disembodied", "objective" perspective.</blockquote><div><br>I am reluctant to embark in a full epistemological discussion here, let alone in English, but I think that for the purpose of the present discussion we can consider my position as limited to *value* judgment, such as those considering the different "contributions" of civilisations to what one considers, e.g., the achievements of our species.<br>
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And you write "it is part of the (European) historiographic<br>
tradition to take into account to some extent external narratives..." as if there were any question that this is an entirely laudable activity. To me, of *course* taking into account external narratives is something that always ought to be done.</blockquote>
<div><br>It *is* - for me (and for you, obviously). And I also maintain that this is not just our personal position, but an idea quite widespread in our culture - which exactly makes for the "superiority" of its historical works. <br>
<br>But in saying that I have no qualms to admit that this is a purely "chauvinistic" point of view, since we have to accept that such attitude is far from generalised across human cultures, civilisations and eras.<br>
<br></div></div>On the contrary, arguing for the "objective superiority of objectivity" does not really seem to add much to one's such stance. <br><br>Multiculturalism in fact implies that *we are at least as entitled to adhere to our own paradigms as Bororos are*, the accepted western historical methods being certainly in some sense part of those paradigms.<br>
<br>Different roads to the same destination, I guess... :-)<br><br>Stefano Vaj<br></div>