"...<i>but in ten years I see no reason we couldn't <b>automate</b> a iterative process of <br>learning, researching, training and testing in a continuous cycle</i>..."<br><br>This process should obviously be free, paid by the state, at a substantially lower<br>
tax burden than current education and at a substantially higher efficiency, but while<br>also being a lot less traumatic to students. <i><b>All at the same time yes.</b></i> <br><br>Here in my country all education is public, so the distinction between private or<br>
public is irrelevant. In a country where I vote I'll vote against madrases, or any other<br>kind of private indoctrination institutes. I'll want nonscientific education, namely<br>spreading creationist ideologies, outlawed. <br>
<br>The above quote is relevant to using compelling computing tools, that are fun, that<br>work, that are cheatproof, that have a substantially lower drop-off rate, that test<br>in continuous cycling, that stimulate both the talented and less so to achieve the<br>
maximum they can, but don't penalize those who cannot, that do not subject kids<br>to gang culture, bullying. And then some. Schools have degenerated into something<br>that is completely unacceptable. I am working in a very special school right now, <br>
where everyone is motivated beyond what I have ever seen my life, and I just gag<br>at the though of lower professional schools (MBO) in my country.<br><br>I wouldn't even want to argue the american clusterf**k right now - that has already<br>
collapsed as a system years ago and keeps staggering on like a headless corpse.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kevin H <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kevin.l.holmes@gmail.com">kevin.l.holmes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>I'm not really sure what you guys are talking about. Ending public/free education just means </div>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>you're going to have more uneducated people out there, how is this a good thing? I'm actually </div>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>in favor of the direction we're on with standardized testing and using this as the primary criteria </div>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>for evaluation teachers. We just have to get out of the era of social promotion, parents and </div>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>teacher unions having the majority of the power, and you don't have to kill public education to </div>
</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>do this.</div></blockquote></div><br>