<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><br>And this theory predicts there is a critical mistake being made there. It is the 'causal' properties that have the power to 'affect the senses'. Abstracting cause and effect based senses are blind to phenomenal properties. Phenomenal properties are the final result of the perception process, produced by what causal properties the senses detect.<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Gordon Swobe" <gts_2000@yahoo.com><br><br>Locke defined secondary qualities philosophically as *the powers of objects to affect the senses*.<br><br><br><br> <br>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<br></div></body></html>