<div class="gmail_quote"><div>The jury is still out whether or not wife beating is immoral behavior, but your friends seem <br>swayed when they ostracize you. Same with being a racist, a pedophyle, a meth dealer, <br>a murderer, someone who dumps his waste benzene in the sewer, a spreader of <br>
viagra spam or any other new and debatable improprieties. There are numerous topics where <br>people disagree whether or not the behavior is a crime, and equally uncountable numbers<br>of people that shrug whatever I think. It will be unresolvable - people are stuck in their grooves<br>
and discourse is dead. Not even transhumanists have ideals left, and extropianism has <br>the same polarized bulwark of self-interest, collapse of ideals, belligerence, political<br>obstinacy, arrogance and contempt as any segment of society. <br>
<br>Prove me wrong. <br><br>I can only vouch that I believe the near-collapse of the worlds climate a reality, that humanity<br>is largely responsible, that this damage can be limited, that if we do not, possibly billions are<br>
going to die as a direct result before 2100, that the damage can be limited with sound economic <br>choices that work parallel with implementation of non-carbon energy carriers as well as <br>sources, and that people who are now persisting in sincerely denying this process are dupes of<br>
media with a vested interest in the industrial/economic status quo.<br><br>What I believe doesn't matter an inch. Some here would rather see me die from poverty than <br>listen to whatever I have to say. <br><br>...and what do you know? I don't give a hoot. I am personally sure of all above and I don't care!<br>
I am going to die anyways, probably somewhere between 2025 and 2045, probably of poverty, <br>violent causes, collapse of society, the result of explosively (and corrosively advancing technology)<br>and horrid mismanagement by paranoid elites steering society as surely towards their self-interested<br>
holdings as the yawning void ahead. So I couldn't care LESS about what happens to the environment.<br><br>In fact, I welcome the collapse of the environment, somewhere later this century as it will<br>probably do great in mercifully euthanizing the remaining humans and save them a fate worse<br>
than death. I'll croak miserably long before we have a chance to immortalize or upload ourselves<br>(and if not, nobody would go through the effort consider uploading or rejuvenating me in time!). <br><br>Face it - Humanity is not worth it. I intend to be as nice as can to my fellow humans in the last years <br>
of human hegemony on this planet, but if I have some spare CO2 I will take immense joy in dumping it<br>to save me half a euro. So - everyone: we ruined it, we fucked up, party is over, any year in <br>some measure of comfort is a blessing, and a merciful death after is all you can hope for. <br>
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> ...On Behalf Of Lee Corbin<br>
<br>
</div>> ...Climate denial isn't a crime<br>
> here yet, but you can be ostracized by your friends... Lee<br>
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Lee, the ostracizers weren't your friends to start with. spike</blockquote><div><br>But I'd love to be proven wrong, on any of this.<br><br> <br></div></div>