<div>Another way to conceptualize these very big numbers is to use clock-time in seconds. </div>
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<div>I just plunked my calculator and came up with the following:</div>
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<div>1 year = 31,557,600 seconds</div>
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<div>1 billion seconds = 31.688 years (rounded)</div>
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<div>1 trillion seconds = 31,688 years (rounded)</div>
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<div>On that basis, the average American can expect to live for a couple of billion seconds plus an additional 300 million seconds or so.</div>
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<div>But no human being has yet lived for one trillion seconds.</div>
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<div>Now there's a nice transhumanist goal: </div>
<div>I want to live one trillion seconds! </div>
<div>....Or more ;)</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Mike LaTorra</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:48 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>> Damien Broderick<br>> Subject: Re: [ExI] Eternity: Our Next Billion Years, by Michael Hanlon<br>
><br>> At 08:07 AM 5/25/2009 -0700, Spike wrote:<br>> ><br>> >I would countersuggest we express the current insane government<br>> >spending in terms not of dollars but rather in a working prole's<br>
> >salary. We then have not *illions but rather days, months,<br>> years, centuries, millennia, etc.<br>><br>> Barbara, with a degree in mathematics and an MBA, commented<br>> on the original trillions post:<br>
><br>><br>> "It's still very hard for me to truly understand the concept of a<br>> trillion dollars... Damien Broderick<br><br><br>OK so let me run with this idea. We know that there exists an appalling<br>
portion of the proletariat who are convinced that a billion is two million<br>and a trillion is three million. It would seem other nations with smaller<br>fundamental units of currency would have already had to deal with this.<br>
<br>We don't express interstellar distances in miles or even gigameters, these<br>units being too small for such enormous scales, but rather in light-years.<br>So let us consider the average salary of an ordinary prole, say Joe the<br>
Plumber, say fifty thousand bucks a year. But a Joe-year (and even a<br>Joe-career) are units still too small to avoid the *illion trap, so let us<br>consider, instead of a year, the period of time between now and the time<br>
that the Christ twins, Jesus and Hoerkheimer, walked the seas, doing the<br>things that indolent teenage saviors do. (What would that be? Walking on<br>puddles? Healing healthy hypochondriacs? Blowing blow? Delivering the<br>
Sermon on the Pitchers' Mound? Taking a few loaves and fishes and feeding<br>the five? The world may never know.)<br><br>OK, fifty thousand dollars times two thousand years, that makes a Joe-Jesus<br>equal to about one hundred miilllllion dollars (cue the Dr. Evil gesture.)<br>
Before I go on, do let me invite the usual punsters to come up with a name<br>for the Joe-Jesus unit, this 10^8 dollar sum. The christalmighty? The<br>plumberbuttslammer? The saviorass?<br><br>spike<br><br><br><br><br>
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