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size=2 face=Arial>Yes, I have a copy of <EM><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman">Biopolitica. Il nuovo
paradigma </FONT></EM> thank you. I wasn't sure that is what you
were referring to ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Okay, so Ms. Clarke disses transhumanism. Par for the
course. Maybe I'll meet her in Melbourne when I am there in
November.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Natasha</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org
[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stefano
Vaj<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> ExI chat
list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ExI] The Paradox of the
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2009/7/27 Natasha Vita-More <SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Does the
author use the terms "transhuman" or "transhumanism"? Probably
not. But please tell me I am wrong.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>Yes, she does. She even quotes Max a few times.<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>How do
you suggest that Julie Clarke could be beneficial to
transhumanism?</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>Directly beneficial? I do not know. Unless perhaps in the sense of
"there is no such thing as bad press". :-)<BR><BR>But her biases do not seem so
strong. In fact, I think that she for one would be prepared to accept that a few
of her criticisms originate from misconceptions. <BR><BR>The basic idea of the
book, for instance, is that there is a paradox if not a contradiction between
seeking human optimality through technology and the inevitable hybridisation
(human-animal, human-machine, human-god) that such choice brings along. Now, I
think that many, if not most transhumanists would be quite prepared to accept
such a "hybridisation" and the rupture of the "humanist" paradigm it may imply,
so that the "contradiction" denounced is more apparent than real. <BR><BR>But
the important angle of course is that she shows a certain insight of
transhumanist history and logical consequences, and even illustrate some
reflections thereof in pop culture which may not be too apparent even for us.
See the extensive discussion of the undertext in, e.g., <I>Alien
Resurrection</I>.<BR> <BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>What book are you referring to on transhumanism and
biopolitics?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr
align=left><SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><I>Biopolitica. Il
nuovo paradigma </I>(<A
href="http://www.biopolitica.it">http://www.biopolitica.it</A>). Didn't I give
you a copy when we met?<BR><BR>-- <BR>Stefano Vaj<BR></BODY></HTML>