<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Anders Sandberg wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">s there a fundamental energy or entropy cost of moving matter around? If<br>I want to send a mass M from point A to point B within time T, how much<br>would that cost? Obviously there are concerns of friction in terrestrial<br>environments, but I am mostly concerned here with interstellar distances.<br></span></blockquote><br></div><div>If you're concerned with interstellar distances then it's very hard to understand why you'd ever want to move matter around, moving information is so much quicker and more economical. If you insisted you could transfer the quantum state of an object and it wouldn't use much more energy than moving information, but teleportation is difficult for large objects and seems overkill to me.</div><div><br></div><div>Well OK I exaggerate, you might want to send Von Neumann probes, but they are so small they wouldn't use much energy unless you were in a big hurry for then to get to their destination. Even at today's speeds you could send one to every star in the galaxy in less than 50 million years, and that's nothing.</div><div><br></div><div> John K Clark</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>