<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Gordon Swobe wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">The operative word in the above is "evolved". Why did this mysterious<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"subjective symbol grounding" (bafflegab translation: consciousness) <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">evolve? <br></blockquote><br>To help you communicate better with other monkeys, among other things.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So consciousness effects behavior and say goodbye to the Chinese room.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I think you really want to ask how it happened that humans did not evolve as unconscious zombies. Why did evolution select consciousness? I think one good answer is that perhaps nature finds it cheaper when its creatures have first-person awareness of the things they do and say. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So it's easier to make a conscious intelligence than an unconscious one.</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>We would probably find it more efficient in computers also.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>So if you ever run across a intelligent computer you can be certain its conscious. Or at least as certain as you are about your fellow human beings are conscious when they act intelligently. <br><div><br></div><div> John K Clark</div></div><br></body></html>