<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Not dualism in the sense of some ineffable, non-interactive properties. But in the sense that certain properties pertain to information, or motion, or activity, but not necessarily to matter.</div><div><br></div><div>Spreadsheets aren't magnetic (or, when projected, made of photons).</div><div><br></div><div>Surface tension isn't wet.</div><div><br></div><div>Thinking isn't grey and squishy.</div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Gordon Swobe <gts_2000@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ExI chat list
<extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri, February 26, 2010 2:06:33 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ExI] Is the brain a digital computer?<br></font><br>
--- On Fri, 2/26/10, Christopher Luebcke <<a ymailto="mailto:cluebcke@yahoo.com" href="mailto:cluebcke@yahoo.com">cluebcke@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I've already argued for thinking as an emergent property<br><br>Yes, and I liked your analogy. You argued that conscious thought arises as an emergent property like the surface tension of water. I've made similar analogies here in which I compared consciousness to the frozen state of water. I like your analogy but I like mine better: the brain enters a state of consciousness like water enters a state of solidity.<br><br>>, but to assume that since the brain is made of mass that any of its <br>> properties must also have mass is absurd. <br><br>I wonder now if you want to defend property dualism. <br><br>I reject both substance and property dualism. On my view, at time t when the brain exists in conscious state s, the conscious thought at t exists in/as a particular configuration of brain
matter. That configuration of brain matter at t has mass.<br><br>-gts<br><br><br><br> <br>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a></span><br></div></div><div style="position:fixed"></div>
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