<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Whether it's</div><div><br></div><div> T is caused by B</div><div><div> B has the property m</div><div><br></div></div><div>or</div><div><br></div><div> T is contained in B</div><div> B has the property m</div><div><br></div><div>You cannot, from either of these cases, deduce that</div><div><br></div><div> T has the property m</div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br></div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt">You could only deduce that statement if you modified the original statements such that</div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br></div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new
york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"> T is B</div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br></div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt">Surely you're not claiming that thoughts are brain matter?</div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br></div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Gordon Swobe <gts_2000@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri, February 26, 2010 11:13:45 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ExI] Is the
brain a digital computer?<br></font><br>
> I believe that the only workable definition of the noun 'a<br>> thought' is, fundamentally, 'a statement', which is<br>> certainly information, certainly can be held in media other<br>> than brains, and certainly does not have mass.<br><br>By the noun thought I mean the intentional mental state of a conscious<br>mind. Hard drives and newspapers contain information but they do not have<br>mental states intentional or otherwise, at least not this side of science-<br>fiction.<br><br>On my materialist view, brain matter causes and contains thoughts. And brain matter has mass. So notwithstanding the possible involvement of massless particles, thoughts have mass.<br><br>-gts<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><span><a
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