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Jeff Davis wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:35 PM, samantha <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sjatkins@mac.com"><sjatkins@mac.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">It does not burn hot enough to melt
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Yes.
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<pre wrap="">or significantly weaken skyscraper still.
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Wrong. It does, it did, the columns deformed, the buildings came down.
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That is theory, not proven fact.<br>
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<pre wrap=""> That is a fact.
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No, that is your overconfident misinformed notion . The collapse of
the towers and building seven, that is fact.
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Nope. See melting point of steel. <br>
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<pre wrap=""> It has been proven
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Unsourced misinformed overconfidence.
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<pre wrap="">even in fires that burned much
longer for 24 hours.
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Building seven came down before the end of the day. Historical empirical fact.
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It was not even hit by any plane so that is even more odd.<br>
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<pre wrap="">My g*d, your not a "truther" are you Samantha?!!!
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I will not even discuss what my views are on the topic in a forum that
is throwing such terms on pre-sliming of possible positions around.
The issue on all sides has been very well covered on the net. It is
not at all clear that the official story is believable at the end of a
honest examination. <br>
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<pre wrap=""> Steel does not become like warm butter at those temperatures.
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No, it becomes like hot steel: softer, weaker.
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Nope. Not enough soon enough. I note know proof for your contention
either.<br>
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You need to read the article, Samantha.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627606.100-living-in-denial-why-sensible-people-reject-the-truth.html?full=true">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627606.100-living-in-denial-why-sensible-people-reject-the-truth.html?full=true</a>
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I do not read articles attempting to smear people more than examine
particular evidence for and against. From examining arguments about
what likely happened my conclusion is that the buildings did not come
down in my opinion as the result of the fires or the impact. <br>
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<pre wrap="">You're over -the-top unwarranted certitude is a prime symptom of the
phenomenon the article addresses.
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I did not come to that opinion lightly. I didn't not want to reach
that conclusion and was not at all happy when I did. <br>
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I would expect people that pride themselves on rationality would not be
so easily impressed with some puff piece on a popular science site
lumping various opinions many readers may not hold together and tarring
them all with the same brush no matter what their individual
merits. <br>
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- samantha<br>
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