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ddraig wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 June 2010 13:19, Anna Taylor <span
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shouldn't there be a place that people can go to feel loved? <br>
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What if you are gay, or of some wildly different faith? What then? It
seems to me that pretty much all churches are places you can go to feel
loved *as long as you fit into their narrow definition of allowable
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Depends on the church. As the Mormons came up recently I most
definitely would not recommend being or attempting to become Mormon if
you are queer in gender and/or sexuality. I had friends in both camps
that went through a great deal of pain and damage due to the Mormon
stance on such things. It was no accident that the Mormons were
strongly involved in stopping gay marriage in California. <br>
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That said, there are open and accepting congregations in various faith
traditions. <br>
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If I want to feel loved, I'll go to rave. Ooooooodles of love, gushing
out all over everyone there.<br>
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Oh yeah. Very powerful too. And for that group "psychic bond" thing
I recommend a good wiccan ritual. Don't buy into the bizarre
mysticism but way more of that energy than I ever felt in church. <br>
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I don't buy into this concept that you need to believe in some giant
invisible sapce-wizard to lead a moral life. I grew up reading a lot of
greek and roman classics from an early age. I am an extremely moral and
upright person. Annoyingly so, according to most of the people I know.
My parents are *fiercely* anti-religion and the only time I have *ever*
been to a church is for a wedding. Or a funeral. <br>
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Sometimes I'll rock up to cathedral to ooh and aaah at the architecture.<br>
It seems to me if you can't teach your children morals and values
without some external (and bullshit-based) structure and support group,
you're failing as a parent. I'd say you should not have had kids at
all, but that tends to get breeders all flippy-outy and punchy-punchy.<br>
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Yes. I would go further and say that you can't really teach morals and
values without screwing up their minds unless you teach it devoid of
mystical nonsense. <br>
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- samantha<br>
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