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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Gregory Jones <spike66@att.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thu, June 17, 2010 2:20:46 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [ExI] Dark doubts<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 6/17/10, Gregory Jones <I><spike66@att.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>In retrospect of 18 years, I am still amazed that the background anisotropy is as high as it is, and I am still unable write you an equation to explain why I am astounded. Astronomy is that way, filled to overflowing with amaaaaazing truth.</DIV>
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<P>I had no idea you were involved in COBE, Spike. Much respect. There are also various Hubble pics online that show light being distorted by dark matter when galaxy clusters collide. Here is a pretty one:</P>
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<P><A href="http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/sao/astronomynews/2007S1/DarkMatterRing.jpg">http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/sao/astronomynews/2007S1/DarkMatterRing.jpg</A></P>
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<P>When I first saw this picture, I thought it was a nebula, but then I noticed those points of light embedded in it are not stars but entire galaxies. That would be a huge cloud of gas, millions of light years across. Then I read the story.</P>
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<P><A href="http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2007/17/full/">http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2007/17/full/</A></P>
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<P>Seems pretty convincing to me that galaxies are swimming in something that has enough mass to bend light and, as you pointed out, cause stars in the disk of galaxies to violate Kepler's Laws.</P>
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<P>Stuart LaForge </P>
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<DIV>"For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love."-Carl Sagan </DIV></div><br>
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