<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Damien Broderick wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 6/26/2010 10:25 PM, Ross Evans wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">The work of P.E.A.R has been debunked many times, I am surprised that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">this is news to you.<br></blockquote><br>I suggest you read some of the detailed statistical reports from PEAR. Go to <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/publications.html">http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/publications.html</a> and look at any of the experimental reports (not the discursive essays). (Of course you won't, you know in your bones, as John Clark does, that it's all BULLSHIT.)<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I sent the following message to the list on February 10 2007, nothing has changed since then:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">Speaking of BULLSHIT, on the front page of today's New York Times there is</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">an article about the ESP "lab" at Princeton (PEAR). It is closing down after</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">28 years. One of the chief witchdoctors there is quoted as saying something</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">that to my surprise I agree with completely: "There is no reason to stay and</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">generate more of the same data. If people don't believe us after all the</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">results we've produced then they never will." More crappy data just will not</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">help.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">The article also describes the joy many at the university felt about its</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">demise and how none of the 700 full professors at Princeton had joined PEAR,</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">and how they never got published in first rate science journals, and how</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">they went to the National Enquire of science journals "The Society for</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">Scientific Exploration" a rag that is never cited by anybody worth reading.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">Besides ESP it also loves UFOs, spoon bending, and of course cold fusion.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">But that august journal does not love everything, it prints attacks on</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; ">relativity and evolution.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "> John K Clark</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "><br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><blockquote type="cite">Regarding the review...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Outside+the+Gates+of+Science%3A+Why+It%27s+Time+for+the+Paranormal+to+...-a0176480171">http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Outside+the+Gates+of+Science%3A+Why+It%27s+Time+for+the+Paranormal+to+...-a0176480171</a><br></blockquote><br>More hilarity. This is your idea of a killer review of my book? Professor Caroline Watts' mostly positive reading?<br><br>> Please provide a link to just one of these scientifically credible<br>> papers in support of the phenomena you claim exist.<br><br>Read Prof Bem and Charles Honorton <dbem.ws/Does%20Psi%20Exist%3F.pdf><br><br>Read linked from <<a href="http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jutts/psipapers.html">http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jutts/psipapers.html</a>><br><br>Utts, J. M. (1996) An Assessment of the Evidence for Psychic Functioning, Journal of Scientific Exploration, 10 (1), 3-30. Also in Journal of Parapsychology, 59(4), 289-320.<br><br>Hyman, R. (1996) Evaluation of Program on Anomalous Mental Phenomena Journal of Scientific Exploration 10(1), 31-58. Also in Journal of Parapsychology, 59(4), 321-352.<br><br>Utts, J. M. (1996) Response to Ray Hyman's Report of September 11, 1995, "Evaluation of Program on Anomalous Mental Phenomena." Journal of Scientific Exploration 10(1), 59-61. Also in Journal of Parapsychology, 59(4), 353-356.<br><br>May, E.C. (1996). The American Institutes for Research Review of the Department of Defense's STAR GATE Program: A Commentary. Journal of Scientific Exploration 10(1), 89-107.<br>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>