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On 9/1/10 1:58 AM, Singularity Utopia wrote:
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<div>I believe Post-Scarcity is the most important aspect of the
Singularity (Extropy).<br>
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Unfortunately it is made up pie in the sky. Even with MNT there is
no miraculous, inescapable and they lived happily ever after ending
coming. There is a very slim chance that it works out really really
well for everybody and a much better chance it works out well for a
relatively smaller number. But at no time will it be true there is
an infinite amount of everything desirable. It is true that many
things will fall radically in cost of production (to nearly zero
beyond the matter, energy and knowledge of how the matter is
arranged). But there is a finite amount of matter/energy and MNT
machines at any time. The desires of humans and other
intelligences will always always push beyond the finite. Thus
there will be scarcity of some kind even if the base-level is almost
beyond imagination now. So can we stop with the hype? It can
especially backfire in the middle of the economic explosion likely
in the next few years.<br>
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Awareness of forthcoming Post Scarcity is exceedingly
important during this insecure economic era (2010). Simple
awareness of Post-Scarcity on a global scale has the potential
to eliminate enormous suffering. Post-Scarcity awareness could
also massively increase popular support for the
Singularity/Extropy.<br>
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It also has the potential to make many that are or will be suffering
economically think they have been robbed of a glorious future by all
the usual suspects. Those suspects seldom include the real monster
that limits human freedom and progress but I won't go into that
right now. We live increasingly in an entitlement environment.
Tell the people they are entitled to endless milk and honey and they
will rip you to shreds when anything else occurs. At the best H+
will lose a lot of credibility when it doesn't quite work out that
way. Trod carefully.<br>
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I have created some International Post-Scarcity symbols for
people to share:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://singularity-2045.org/POST-SCARCITY.zip">http://singularity-2045.org/POST-SCARCITY.zip</a><br>
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href="%20http://singularity-2045.org/post-scarcity-hope-science-technology-vanquish-despair.html"><br>
http://singularity-2045.org/post-scarcity-hope-science-technology-vanquish-despair.html</a><br>
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Consider the power of positive thinking.<span
style="font-weight: bold;">"Hope"</span> can make the world
a better place if enough people are hopeful. Imagine being
locked in a hotel for two weeks with 100 psychopaths or 100
hopeless depressives. Imagine what type of social
interactions/culture would occur in such a situation. The
psychopaths may try to kill you and the depressives could make
you feel very depressed.<br>
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There is very little power in positive thinking without clear,
consistent, effective action. You can think positive all day long
and get nowhere. You can think positive about something that in
reality is impossible and work really hard to get it and you will
still, guaranteed, fail. The utter and complete end of all scarcity
is one of those things that are contrary to reality.<br>
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<div>Now imagine living in a world full of despairing people
without any hope for the future. If those despairing people
could be given hope you could change their
interpersonal/social/cultural reactions/actions. If you change
enough minds you can change the world..<br>
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Then give them honest real hope rather than pie in the sky utopias.<br>
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<div>Optimism (expectations of utopia) can eliminate hate and
misery because people change their behaviour according to
their outlook. <span style="font-weight: bold;">EXPECT
UTOPIA!</span><br>
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This has been claimed so many times and has led to so much hatred
and misery. It does not work. <br>
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I sympathize. Who doesn't want glorious Good News to believe in and
spread? Been there and frankly I miss it. But I cannot rationally
claim such is true and if I can't honestly believe it I sure as hell
can't sell it.<br>
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- s<br>
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