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class=593404521-22092010>...</SPAN></STRONG><B>On Behalf Of </B>Adrian
Tymes<BR><SPAN class=593404521-22092010><STRONG></STRONG></SPAN><FONT
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Re: [ExI] help please, from you creative types<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote><FONT size=2>2010/9/22 spike <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><FONT size=2><SPAN><SPAN
class=593404521-22092010>>></SPAN>Question please, extro-thinkers: how
do I use a digital camera to prove an event took place no later than
stated?</SPAN> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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class=593404521-22092010>></SPAN>You don't - not with the digital camera
itself. Data can be edited, and the courts know<BR>this. (If you
include today's newspaper, that could be pasted into a photograph
taken<BR>earlier, for instance.)<SPAN class=593404521-22092010>
Adrian</SPAN><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=593404521-22092010>Ja digital photos can be edited, but this isn't a
criminal court, rather a fairly minor civil case. For those outside the
US, a bit of explanation is in order. In the US, criminal courts and civil
courts have standards of evidence that are almost opposite.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=593404521-22092010>In criminal court the defendant is presumed
innocent. The prosecution must present evidence in direct
proportion to the amount of money the defendant
owns. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=593404521-22092010>In civil court, the richest party is presumed
guilty. The defense must present evidence in direct proportion to the
amount of money the defendant owns. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=593404521-22092010>Yes, digital photos *could* be edited, but it would
then be the prosecution's task to prove that it was done, which is quite
unlikely in this case, especially if we have human testimony to back it up if it
is called into question. So I am actually asking from a lowish-level
standard of evidence, a low cost, low effort item of evidence where the amounts
of money at stake are a few tens of thousands of dollars, probably
less than 100k, something for which a lawyer wouldn't go to too much
effort.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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