<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
<br>
And remember that there are two parts to most conscious perception.
There is the conscious knowledge, and it's referent. For out of
body experiences, the knowledge of our 'spirit' or 'I' leaves our
knowledge of our body (all in our brain).<br>
<br>
Our conscious knowledge of our body has a referent in reality, but
our knowledge of this 'spirit' does not. Surely in the future we'll
be able to alter and represent all this conscious knowledge any way
we want. And evolution surely had survivable reasons for usually
representing this 'I' just behind our knowledge of our eyes.<br>
<br>
Brent Allsop<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/31/2010 3:44 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ablainey@aol.com">ablainey@aol.com</a> wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:8CD475BDEDA80D9-EDC-21A0D@Webmail-d121.sysops.aol.com"
type="cite"><font size="2" color="black" face="arial">I <font
size="2" color="black" face="arial">completely agree John and
if my eyes were located elsewhere, that would be the centre of
my perceived consciousness. As such the concept of position
isn't usefull at all. It would only prove such if someone
posts that they feel their 'self' is located somewhere other
than the head. Which considering the size of our skin and the
massive level of sensory information it creates, its
interesting that the I isn't more body centric. It just goes
to show how much priority the visual and auditory senses have.<br>
I wonder where blind people feel they are? hmmm.<br>
<br>
A
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;
color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: John Clark <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonkc@bellsouth.net"><jonkc@bellsouth.net></a><br>
To: ExI chat list <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org"><extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org></a><br>
Sent: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:44<br>
Subject: Re: [ExI] Flash of insight...<br>
<br>
<div id="AOLMsgPart_3_6f6b12fd-0925-407f-bc8f-a9acb1693db6">
<div>
<div>On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:05 AM, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ABlainey@aol.com">ABlainey@aol.com</a>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="border-collapse: separate; font-family:
Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
arial; font-size: small;">About general
conciousness.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>'I'<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>am
located in my head and the exact position varies.</span></span></blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<div>But that has nothing to do with the position of your
brain, it's because the sense organs for 4 of your 5
senses are exclusively located on your head; if your
brain was in your foot you'd still feel "I" was located
in your head. And if you are thinking very hard about
the Great Wall Of China then, if the concept of position
has any useful meaning when dealing with consciousness
which it probably doesn't, then your consciousness is in
China.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> John K Clark</div>
<br>
=
</div>
<!-- end of AOLMsgPart_3_6f6b12fd-0925-407f-bc8f-a9acb1693db6 -->
<div id="AOLMsgPart_4_6f6b12fd-0925-407f-bc8f-a9acb1693db6"
style="margin: 0px; font-family:
Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>
</tt></pre>
</div>
<!-- end of AOLMsgPart_4_6f6b12fd-0925-407f-bc8f-a9acb1693db6 -->
</div>
</font></font>
<pre wrap="">
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
_______________________________________________
extropy-chat mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>