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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mr Jones<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 12, 2010 6:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Electric cars without batteries<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Kind of off topic,but speaking of steam...<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not off topic. Long standing tradition at ExI-chat to discuss relevant technologies, even ones not related to uploading and transhumanism. If and until the singularity, we must live and possibly die in a pre-singularity world. Dammit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>What if one or two cylinders in the motor were steam driven,using the heat from the motor's combustion? Perhaps a special block design could facilitate the necessary heat transfer? Maybe the steam cylinders only fire 1:5 revaluation,whatever the #'s work out to be.<br>This process could replace the need for radiators,and increase efficiency? Make some use of all that largely wasted heat energy?<o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind of like a cogeneration system for internal combustion. There should be some literature somewhere on this. In automotive technology, everything that could possibly be thought of has been tried by someone somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you are in the mood to search for it, look around of an idea I have been kicking around: automotive batteries that have some kind of cooling system for the acid, in order to allow them to charge and discharge quickly. I got the idea from a comment Keith made about turbines. If we had a small turbine it could be allowed to spin like all hell under constant speed and constant load, so it is efficient, if there is a good way to use the electricity in normal traffic. This would require batteries that can handle fast discharging and can handle a lot of recharge current. Someone somewhere must have extensive testing on this notion, ja?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>