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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Greer<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Who is safe? was Re: Wikileaks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>Since Australia has troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Australians could</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>probably charge Assange with treason.<</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I wonder why none of those claiming "Assange must die" or something like bother to mention the fact that if Wikileaks is through some legal or national security bullshit slight-of-hand held criminally, civically or even morally responsible for leaking the documents<span style='color:#1F497D'>…<o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree. The story itself contains contradictions. We hear of classified information that was taken from an unsecured link, but nothing of the leakers, those who put the info on an unsecured medium, which really is illegal. I don’t mean PFC Manning, but rather the apparent authors. Neither do I hear the obvious: if classified info was copied, how can it be verified that it was genuine? I suspect it was counterfeit, or was liberally mixed with intentionally counterfeit posts.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In this spirit I now ask: can you think of any advantages or disadvantages of generating back dated counterfeit ExI posts and placing them in the archives? If we could create an index of the inserted posts, which could later be used to demonstrate *<b>any</b>* opinion we needed, anything from being pro-singularity, anti-singularity, any position we wanted regarding global warming etc. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course if we do that, we give away the actual crystal clear foresight which was occasionally demonstrated on this list, specifically with regards to the future of war. Some of those posts from over a decade ago were spot on with what history is revealing today.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div></div></body></html>