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size=2 face=Arial> Sondre wrote:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>"</FONT> </SPAN>No religion are sane. Religions are
invalid as basis for morality, as the morality in all religions are not based
upon realities in the world and doesn't stand up to
scientific scrutiny.<SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I disagree. Some religions offer a cultural perspective
of a tribe's history and mythic lore. And many contain moral views, which
are deeply based on the real world. It would be difficult to say whether
they stand up to scientific scrutiny, but it would be difficult to say that
transhumanism stands up to scientific scrutiny, or cyberculture, or
feminism, etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> " </FONT></SPAN>Religions is the mechanism of which to get
people to submit their lives to rude and evil beings, of which then the
leaders of each religion can manipulate their masses at will.<SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>All
religions? All leaders of religions? All masses?
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<DIV><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> " </FONT></SPAN>Yet you are right, it's not far fetched
that religious individuals can believe anything, even in evolution. Believing
has nothing to do with understandability, truth and right.<SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Believing does involve understandability, truth and right.
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<DIV><SPAN class=453040415-07012011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Many
religions offer a elements of good judgment, however based on
myth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=453040415-07012011>Natasha </SPAN><SPAN
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2011/1/7 Samantha Atkins <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>There are many many flavors of Christian - some are actually pretty sane.
:) Mainstream Christianity for a while was denatured of all that
biblical literalism and thought many things were mostly symbolic, for
instance. Then we got the fundamentalist resurgence - in my opinion
partially as reaction to Future Shock. </DIV>
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<DIV>If you hold that it is possible within the laws of physics of this
universe to run multiple virtual universes then you believe in principle that
it is possible for an entire universe to have a creator. You also
believe in principle that things that apparently violate the physics of such a
virtual universe can be done by those controlling the simulating machinery.
And of course you believe that genetic algorithms could be used to
develop beings of all kinds tuned to parts of this virtual universe.
So yeah, a Christian that understands and affirms evolution is not
that far fetched.</DIV>
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<DIV>- samantha</DIV>
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