<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Richard Loosemore wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>I don't think anyone seriously said that chess grandmastery required true intelligence</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Dave Sill wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Like Richard I don't think anyone really thought chess required true intelligence.</span></blockquote><div><br></div>Godel Escher Bach by Douglas R Hofstadter is the best book I have every read in my life full stop. However on page 678 of this 1979 book he says:</div><div><br></div><div>"There may be programs that can beat anyone at chess, but they will not be exclusive chess players. They will be programs of GENERAL [his emphasis not mine] intelligence."</div><div><br></div><div>Twenty years later Hofstadter said that sentence was "embarrassingly bad".</div><div><br></div><div> John K Clark </div><div><br></div><div> <br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><br></span></div></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>