Thanks for you responses. Special thanks to Fred for the run-down and the links. I will read them carefully. The Somalia remark is exactly the type of over-simplification that I've been dealing with in the other discussion. One guy said libertarians were people who read Ayn Rand as a teenager and grew up to be self-centered jerks. But even a quick survey of it on the 'net revealed to me that it is a diverse, coherent and extensive set of beliefs, philosophies and principles that cannot easily be dismissed with a simple one-liner. The older I get the less likely I am to denigrate something because I disagree with it. First I'll try to understand it, and then maybe I'll come up with a one-liner. :)<div>
<br></div><div>Darren<br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Darren Greer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darren.greer3@gmail.com">darren.greer3@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I understand there are some libertarians in this group.<div><br></div><div>I am currently embroiled in an e-mail discussion where I find myself in a rather unique (for me) position of defending free markets and smaller government. I am a Canadian, and a proponent of socialized democracy. However, I'm not naive enough to think that full-stop socialization is a good idea. We tried that once, in the Soviet Union, and it didn't work so well. I recognize the need for competition to drive development and promote innovation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, being a fan of balance, I'm trying to come up with some arguments that a libertarian might give while explaining why that system of could benefit mankind, especially in relation to the development of technology and the philosophies of transhumanism.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Problem is, I'm not very good at it. Anyone wanna give my their opinions on this? I will not plagiarize you. I've already stated in this discussion that I will ask some people and get back to them. It's not necessary that I win the argument, but I do think that my beliefs and preferences are simply points of view, and no better (nor worse) than those of others. This may be the point that I'm trying to make -- that libertarians are not by definition inarticulate right wingers or rabid anarchists, which seems to be the point of view of this group I'm talking with. </div>
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