<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">compassion, human rights, and empathy are of course great ideals, the pinnacle of any civilized society. however capitalism is going to be rendered useless in the future because it is destructive in nature. capitalism creates a world-wide "race to the bottom" of wages. i could say more but that sums it up for me.<br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 2/19/11, Natasha Vita-More <i><natasha@natasha.cc></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Natasha Vita-More <natasha@natasha.cc><br>Subject: Re: [ExI] Call To Libertarians<br>To: "'ExI chat list'" <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br>Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 10:29 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1376189319">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="yiv1376189319765482703-20022011"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Extropy has no built in politics. That is why I am an
extropian and not a libertarian, democrat, republican, green or whatever.
I am only for human rights and the right to enhance.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="yiv1376189319765482703-20022011"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I am not an atheist. I don't bother with religion. I
value empathy more than religion or politics.</font></span></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org
[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren
Greer<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat
list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Call To Libertarians<br></font><br></div>
<div></div><font class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span" color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"> <br><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span">Natasha wrote:</span></span></font>
<div><font class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span" color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"><br></span></span></font></div>
<div><font class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span" color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"> > I am an Extropian and NOT a
libertarian!!@!!!@<</span></span></font></div>
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<div><font class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span" color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="yiv1376189319Apple-style-span"></span></span></font>So does that mean Extropianism has a
built-in political philosophy? I'm assuming it's not libertarianism, from the
discussion here today. :) My original question was about the relation between
libertarianism and technological progress in the transhumanist sense. I did the
reading you all suggested. But is there a political and economic philosophy that
transhumanists are more likely to champion because it furthers technological
goals?</div>
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<div>I don't expect consensus on this. But I'm curious about it, and have been
since I joined this group. We certainly have no problem discussing religion. I
know, for example, that most of us are atheists. What about, as Spike suggested
in his let's-have-an-open-season-on-libertarianism suggestion, politics?</div>
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<div>Darren<br>-- <br>
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