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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stefano Vaj<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] From Friendly AI to Loving AI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 6 May 2011 21:44, F. C. Moulton <<a href="mailto:moulton@moulton.com">moulton@moulton.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>>…</span> for the moment I will keep my opinion of religious dogma out of<span style='color:#1F497D'> </span>the discussion.<span style='color:#1F497D'> Fred</span><br clear=all><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fred you are far too polite sir. Offering one’s opinion of religious dogma is allowed here. Encouraged even. {8^D<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>It is however interesting how bioluddite feminism manages to make a "technology=oppression" manifesto of female masturbatory devices' history.<br><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>See <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Technology-Orgasm-Hysteria-Vibrator-Satisfaction/dp/0801866464/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1304785996&sr=8-2">The Technology of Orgasm: "Hysteria," the Vibrator, and Women's Sexual Satisfaction</a><br>by <span class=ptbrand><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rachel-P.-Maines/e/B002M0384G/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2?qid=1304785996&sr=8-2">Rachel P. Maines</a>.</span><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span>--<span style='color:#1F497D'> </span>Stefano Vaj<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An interesting and fun bit of well-researched historical fiction was TC Boyle’s Road to Wellville.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Wellville">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Wellville</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The book was remarkably well done, bringing in a number of obscure historical circumstances of Battle Creek Michigan around the dawn of the 20<sup>th</sup> century. Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of corn flakes and other health foods, set up a sanitarium, or what we would now call a health spa, where patients were subjected to a rigorous diet and exercise program to help them regain their health. All around Kellogg’s facility, “doctors” set up therapeutic institutions where they practiced “pelvic massage” on the well-to-do ladies. This all went on without Dr. Kellogg’s knowledge, and certainly without his approval. Perhaps he wondered why the clients tended to return from their day shopping with a rosy cheeked glow, and why they were so eager to return year after year.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In any case, there is an excellent movie made from the book, with Anthony Hopkins, Matthew Broderick, and Dana Carvey in one of his rare semi-drama roles (he is excellent in that.) They advertise Wellville as a comedy, but if so, it is more of a subtle PG Wodehouse style comedy rather than Saturday Night Live style slapstick. Even then, it would be a rare example of historically-accurate comedy:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1089667353/">http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1089667353/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Note: this trailer isn’t a good representation of the film. I get the feeling the makers of this ad didn’t actually view it, but rather just fast forwarded to the sexy parts and did some cut and paste.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I find JH Kellogg an interesting character, because he was so experimental, so far ahead of his time. He was a proto-extropian.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>