Funny that you would bring up the fed in the context of a constitutional debate... :-) <br><br>Funny too is that Obama promised not to increase taxes on the middle class.. Then decides this is a tax when his lawyers back him into a corner. So is Obama another elected official breaking a campaign promise, or is he failing to uphold the constitution?<br><br>Choose, because I don't think you can have this one both ways.<br><br>Kelly<br><br><span style="font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;"><br><br></span><span id="signature"><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my Palm Pre</div><br></span><span style="color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr align="left" style="width:75%">On Jun 13, 2011 11:07 AM, Damien Sullivan <phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote: <br><br>On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 09:39:25AM -0700, spike wrote:
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<br>> > >... a couple of courts have labelled it as "unconstitutional" which is
<br>> accurate enough IMHO.
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<br>> >...And a bunch of other courts didn't... -xx- Damien X-)
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<br>Oh, and at least one judge who ruled it unconstitutional owns a big
<br>chunk of a GOP consulting firm.
<br>http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/judge-who-ruled-health-care-reform-unconstitutional-owns-piece-of-gop-consulting-firm.php
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<br>> I have read the US constitution word for word, and I find in there nothing
<br>> that indicates the US government has the authority to make anyone buy
<br>> anything. The US government has the authority to regulate commerce, but as
<br>
<br>Well, technically it's a tax increase that's waiveable if you
<br>purchase health insurance or can prove that you can't afford to.
<br>
<br>> far as I can tell, they haven't the authority to regulate non-commerce.
<br>
<br>A narrow reading of the constitution also rules out the war on drugs,
<br>the air force, control of nuclear weapons and material, the Bush vs. Gore
<br>decision in 2000, and lots of other things. Many of which would make
<br>libertarians happy, but it's interesting to see what gets people antsy.
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<br>> Individual states have the authority to require that proles buy insurance,
<br>> the fed doesn't. Looks to me like the fed would need to pass a
<br>
<br>But the fed does have the authority to shape tax policy.
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<br>-xx- Damien X-)
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