Thanks, Natasha. Regarding your reply, I needed to to re-orient myself and just check out the differences between what you were expressing, and what I understood Extropy to be as I remembered it, and did it the old fashioned way: Google. <br>
<br>So, it looks like some fine lines have been drawn in the past few years that helped me understand the difference. From your own perspective, and correct me if I am wrong, you wish to leave out any externalities which may affect the achievement of developing H+ technologies, such as politics, and just focus on the the actual technologies themselves, and the benefits you would like to see them bring. <br>
<br>Secondly, Extropianism, (as related to but different from Extropism, which was another new one for me,) as as an idea seems to favor the positive future scenarios as expressed by Ray Kurzweil (who I take it you agree with,) not really agreeing with Ben Goertel that H+ tech could just as easily lead us into either good or bad future, and we just don't know, and steadfastly separating yourselves from the dystopian future scenarios of Hugo de Garis. <br>
<br>In short, Extropianism has clarified that it expects, with effort, of course, a good outcome from H+ tech for both humans and machines, and isn't different from Transhumanism, but rather, an optimistic branch that might best be described by Kevin Warwick's "Cyborginist" concepts.<br>
<br>Would it be fair to say Natasha, that since you do not like the idea of the Singularity, that this is the one main area that you are in disagreement with the Extropian ideals?<br><br>Thanks again for sharing your particular thoughts on that, and for inspiring me to do my due diligence to get better clarification on general Extropian philosphy (and thanks to Max More.)<br>
<br>Kevin<br><br><br>>For me, I am not a libertarian, an anarchist or a singulartarian. I<br>
am transhumanist and I support Extropy above all else. I don't like<br>
Extropy tethered to other stuff that is not expressly focused on life<br>
expansion and well being.<br>
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>Natasha<br>
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Quoting Kevin Haskell <<a href="mailto:kgh1kgh2@gmail.com">kgh1kgh2@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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> First post here, and look forward to more. For now, I just wanted to drop a<br>
> quick note for any in here on FB who consider themselves libertarian,<br>
> anarchist, or generally small government types interested in H+ and AGI.<br>
> The site can be found at : <a href="mailto:singulibertarians@groups.facebook.com">singulibertarians@groups.facebook.com</a><br>
> If interested, just let me know, and I will bring you into the page.<br>
><br>
> Also, I used to call myself "Extropian," went away from discussions for<br>
> awhile, and when I got back into them, everyone was now called<br>
> "Transhumanist." Don't know why the terminology changed, but I just found<br>
> it odd. Any ideas as to why that happened? Not a big deal, just curious.