<div class="gmail_quote">On 11 July 2011 19:44, Kelly Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kellycoinguy@gmail.com">kellycoinguy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Stefano Vaj <<a href="mailto:stefano.vaj@gmail.com">stefano.vaj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Same as in the US executions, you mean? :-)<br>
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</div>US executions have not been public for many decades. </blockquote><div><br>I was not referring to secret executions, but to those administered in front of the lawyers, parties, relatives, press, prison personnel, etc.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">> A frightening prospective indeed.<br>
I think we are all glad we won. :-)<br></blockquote><div><br>The US won the second war, but they did not manage to extend the life of capital punishment and extensive imprisonment in Europe, thank gods.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
And on that point, I concur 100%. It's all about the zeitgeist, and<br>
that changes. I would not be surprised, for example, if sex with some<br>
children is legal in 50 years. It seems to be the direction society is<br>
headed. I don't think it is a good thing, it just seems possible.<br></blockquote><div><br>I have no especially strong opinion in this respect, but my impression as to the direction where society is headed in western country is actually quite the opposite. <br>
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> Thus, governments do not guarantee children per se, and the lack or<br>
> weakness thereof does not imply that they are especially threatened<br>
> under any definition of "threatened" (involving perhaps<br>
> computer-graphic "exploitment"?).<br>
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</div>I don't think I'm following you here. Could you try again please?<br></blockquote><div><br>One objection raised here against libertarianism in the anarchist sense was the need for children protection. I countered that by remarking on the basis of historical experience that governments need not protect children in any plausible sense any more than anarchist regimes.<br>
</div><br></div>-- <br>Stefano Vaj<br>