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size=2 face=Arial>Darn. Sorry for emali hub using "?" for grammatical
keys. I fixed it from Outlook.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org
[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>natasha@natasha.cc<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 06, 2011 8:15
PM<BR><B>To:</B> extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ExI]
NBIC/GRIN Elements as Philosopher's Magnum Opus<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Considering the tools we use to alter our environment and our
own existence, it is fun and somewhat appropriate to look back to Alchemy,
especially the early Taoists in China, who seem to be the originators (rather
than the Egyptians before the Greeks).<SPAN> </SPAN>The four
elements <SPAN class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> -- </FONT></SPAN> earth, water, air and<SPAN>
</SPAN>fire <SPAN class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> -- </FONT></SPAN> appear in many cultures of alchemy,
although referred to somewhat differently. Of greater interest to me is that
fifth element ? the quintessence of life.<SPAN> </SPAN>I am probably
inaccurate when I borrow this term and equate <SPAN> </SPAN>it to personal
identity, althought it works for me in some way I cannot expain.<SPAN>
</SPAN>Reading a marvelous book I ordered from Ireland <EM>Prelude to
Chemistry</EM><SPAN> </SPAN>(Read 1936), I am delighted to find so many terms
that are presently applied to methods of life extension (i.e., revivification,
transmutation), and the lyrical quality of this book is surprising. The
relationship of the term <SPAN class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial> " </FONT></SPAN>body<SPAN
class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> " </FONT></SPAN> is of special interest
<SPAN> </SPAN>in relation to the encasement of the elements and also the
milestone discovery of wine into vinegar. <SPAN> </SPAN>Hey - it's the body
of wine that gives it viscosity and umph. <SPAN> </SPAN>(New bodies for new
minds.)<SPAN> </SPAN>And so on<SPAN class=421430303-07082011><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial> -- </FONT></SPAN>so, thinking about
this and about human enhancement and also NBIC, GRIN, etc.,
<SPAN> </SPAN>seem to be the current philosopher<SPAN
class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> ' </FONT></SPAN>s stone or egg.<SPAN> </SPAN>Once
Kevin Kelly said that technology is out of control, <SPAN> </SPAN>yet now
he sees technology as wanting.<SPAN> </SPAN>While he refers to <SPAN
class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> "</FONT></SPAN>extropy<SPAN class=421430303-07082011><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial> " </FONT></SPAN> in <EM>What
Technology Wants</EM> (2010), under a new term exotropy. It seems that we are
once again back to this idea as providing a philosopher<SPAN
class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> ' </FONT></SPAN>s strategy for addressing the technologies
of human enhancement and life extension/expansion as new types of
elements.<SPAN> </SPAN>Wise too is it that extropy does not look for
perfection <SPAN> </SPAN>(As Alchemy did) but for continual exploration,
improvement, questioning, learning and change.<SPAN> </SPAN>Putting a heck
of a lot of God-stuff aside, the only thing that is way off the mark is the goal
of perfection.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>But I wonder, if NBIC, GRIN, etc. are the tools (chemistry)
for the life extension/expansion are they somehow equitable to the
Alchemist<SPAN class=421430303-07082011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> ' </FONT></SPAN>s 4 or 5 elements? And if so, how
the heck can we create an appropriate egg polis?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Natasha</P>
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