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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Dougherty<br><br><b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>You guys know language. spike</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>I would like a nongendered singular pronoun that isn't the awkward fumbling "his or her"<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Interesting point, ja.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>"A gender-agnostic writer should have a word to express his or her idea without focusing on either 'his' or 'her' gender."<br>(though I especially love self-referential sentences like the one above or like this one)<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Me too. I like sentences that say me, when the me refers to the actual sentence. Example: I am a true statement, so write me early and often.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>My wife would add that "you guys" as the plural form of you is unacceptable - <span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span>" as in "Let me get you guys's check" <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agree. What we have is clumsy any way it is done. We use the feminine pronouns as gender specific, whereas the masculine pronouns are ambiguous gender. At any mixed table, it is considered OK to say you guys, but if even one man is present, never acceptable to say you ladies. Spanish has something pretty similar, and perhaps other languages too. Europeans, does your language have an analogous situation?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have tried to reverse it by using she and her as a gender ambiguous pronoun, but it hasn’t caught on much.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>