<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18pt"><div><span><span><var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var>Beginning in 1991 and continuing to this day I have noticed</span></div><div class="msg-body inner undoreset"><div id="yiv65883453"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>that <span id="yiv65883453misspell-0"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-0" class="yiv65883453mark">de</span></span> <span id="yiv65883453misspell-1"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-1" class="yiv65883453mark">Broglie</span></span>-<span id="yiv65883453misspell-2"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-2" class="yiv65883453mark">Bohm</span></span> mechanics and related theories seem</span></div><div><span>to generate more interest in Hispanic countries than most</span></div><div><span>other countries. A friend
</span><span>in graduate school was a student </span></div><div><span>in <span id="yiv65883453misspell-3" class="yiv65883453mark">Pue</span><span id="yiv65883453misspell-3"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-4" class="yiv65883453mark">rto</span></span> Rico of one of <span id="yiv65883453misspell-4"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-5" class="yiv65883453mark">de</span></span> <span id="yiv65883453misspell-5"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-6" class="yiv65883453mark">Broglie's</span></span> students</span><span>. France</span></div><div><span>and Germany also seem to have some interest also related</span></div><div><span>to students and colleagues of <span id="yiv65883453misspell-6"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-7" class="yiv65883453mark">de</span></span> <span id="yiv65883453misspell-7"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-8" class="yiv65883453mark">Broglie</span></span> and later <span id="yiv65883453misspell-8"><span id="yiv65883453misspell-9"
class="yiv65883453mark">Vigier</span></span></span></div><div><span>but that seems <span id="yiv65883453misspell-9">proportional</span> to their physics activity</span></div><div><span>generally. I have seen virtually no interest in Asian</span></div><div><span>countries, lower than expected in the US and other English</span></div><div><span>speaking countries. I have also seen a scattering of interest</span></div><div><span>in Islamic Africa and the Middle East- <span id="yiv65883453misspell-10">particularly</span> Iran.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span><span id="yiv65883453misspell-11">Bohm</span> did stint in Brazil which may have also contributed</span></div><div><span>to some of the Hispanic interest.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I do not know the cultural significance of this observation</span></div><div><span>but I have seen it for 20 years - perhaps the stagnation of</span></div><div><span>string theory
physics in the mainstream has not spread to </span></div><div><span>all corners </span><span>of academia?</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Dennis May</span></span></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Sophia Rose <sen.otaku@googlemail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 19, 2011 8:05 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ExI]
Discontent with the path physics is taking<br></font><br><div id="yiv745228131"><div>Even if science is a cultural product, there are lots of subcultures within all countries that have scientific research. What effect do you feel these subcultures have on the pursuit of science in general, or Physics in specific?</div>
<div><br></div>I know that it is a general trend in dominant culture to grab the limelight for one's self (I think that is easily drawn from the Reality Star trend). So we are saying that this is the motivation behind this race for String Theory? The desire to be the next Einstein/Newton/Maxwell?<div>
<br></div><div>And if so, how is that different from past trends? What was the previous motivation for scientific discoveries? Is it possible, or even desirable to return to that?<br><br><div class="yiv745228131gmail_quote">2011/8/19 Stefano Vaj <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stefano.vaj@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:stefano.vaj@gmail.com">stefano.vaj@gmail.com</a>></span><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="yiv745228131gmail_quote">
<div class="yiv745228131gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Why, in 2011 we should have learned by now that science is no less a cultural product than anything else... :-) </div>
<blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="yiv745228131gmail_quote"> </blockquote></div>-- <br><font color="#888888">Stefano Vaj</font><br></blockquote></div></div>
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