<div>Hi Brent,</div><div> </div><div>This isn't a good time for me engage in discussing this in depth. I'm packing ready to fly to England in the morning (SENS5 conference). I'd be happy to talk with you further when I get back from the middle of next week. What I can say is that Alcor is far the most well-funded cryonics organization. Given the alternatives, unfortunately that's not much to boast about!</div>
<div> </div><div>--Max<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2011/8/31 Brent Allsop <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brent.allsop@canonizer.com">brent.allsop@canonizer.com</a>></span><br><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="gmail_quote">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<br>
Hi Max,<br>
<br>
I didn't know what to think of this thread, and have been mostly
disappointed with it, so was hoping you would respond, so thanks.
It is great to know someone trustworthy like you is now at the head
of Alcor, and to see these kinds of significant changes that are
surely hard for an organization like this to make since you've come
on board.<br>
<br>
I'm still shopping around for a cryonics company, and trying to get
more educated about all these issues. Until this thread started, I
assumed that Alcor was the company that was well funded (meaning
less financial risk), where as some other companies that require
significantly less money for a similar service (at least it appears
like such on the surface), might be at risk of being less well
funded or risk financial failure. And that was before I heard that
Alcor recently significantly upped their prices. Is this thread
telling me that, at least in the past, this wasn't the case, even
though this may be changing, at even significantly more increased
prices from competitors?<br>
<br>
Is there a source of some good comparison information about the
various different costs different companies require, and what you
get from those companies for the buck, especially as far as
financial or any other kind of risk goes and so on?<br>
<br>
Brent Allsop<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/30/2011 9:43 PM, Max More wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Keith: Rather than inflaming people based on rumors, why not
wait until Alcor communicates what is being considered in order
to tackle the massive underfunding problem that has accumulated
over many years? (Details of a possible proposal will probably
come out in about two weeks.) Something MUST be done, but the
proposal under consideration is much less dire than you're
painting it.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Eugene: That's just about a content-free statement. And it's
not in the least bit helpful. Who is this "you" that you're
referring to? Do you mean yourself? Do you mean people far away
from Alcor, in Europe? Do you mean everyone with arrangements
with Alcor? I suspect that you've been reading Darwin's blog and
actually believing his collection of lies, distortions,
exaggerations, out-of-context claims, and occasional truths. Or
is there some other basis for this off-hand, dismissive, and
destructive statement?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>--Max</div>
<div> </div>
<div>P.S. I'll be traveling to England (for the SENS5 conference)
on Thursday morning. I'll do my best to respond to any
worthwhile posts on this topic, but can't guarantee that I'll be
able to.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Eugen
Leitl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eugen@leitl.org" target="_blank">eugen@leitl.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:16:52AM -0700,
Keith Henson wrote:<br>
<br>
> Alcor seems to be in the middle making a decisions to
raise the<br>
> minimum suspension funding retroactively. For the
people who set up<br>
> insurance years ago, and are now too old to get more,
they may have to<br>
> go elsewhere or give up the prospect of being suspended
entirely.<br>
<br>
</div>
You're not getting a lot for your dues anyway.<br>
</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div> <br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>Max More</div>
<div>Strategic Philosopher</div>
<div>Co-editor, <em>The Transhumanist Reader</em></div>
<div>CEO, Alcor Life Extension Foundation</div>
<div>7895 E. Acoma Dr # 110</div>
<div>Scottsdale, AZ 85260</div>
<div><a href="tel:480%2F905-1906%20ext%20113" target="_blank" value="+14809051906">480/905-1906 ext 113</a></div>
<br>
<br>
<fieldset></fieldset>
<br>
<pre>_______________________________________________
extropy-chat mailing list
<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>
<a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
extropy-chat mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div>Max More</div><div>Strategic Philosopher</div><div>Co-editor, <em>The Transhumanist Reader</em></div><div>CEO, Alcor Life Extension Foundation</div><div>7895 E. Acoma Dr # 110</div>
<div>Scottsdale, AZ 85260</div><div>480/905-1906 ext 113</div><br>