On 6 September 2011 01:57, Natasha Vita-More <span dir="ltr"><natasha@natasha.cc></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Pray is a strange request. </p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Heh - apologies; apparently my email went through a 16th Century English filter ;-) "Pray tell" just means "please do say"...</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="background-color:#fff"><div><div><div><p> Made me laugh. But anyway, I mean that most</p><div class="im">
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transhumanists are not militant atheists. Trust refers to the reliance.<br></div>
But I it is a typo because I wanted to say "thrust".</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ah - ok. Well, I have to say that there is a large overlap with the increasingly strident atheist community, but it is of course hard to keep track of how many futurist-inclined atheists identify as transhumanists and vice versa in the absence of a large, formal survey. Suffice to say that I'd be extremely surprised if it turned out that the majority of transhumanists identified as strong religious believers. I am aware of a number of transhumanists with religious beliefs of one type of another, but I've always been under the distinct impression that they are definitely in the minority.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As for the thrust of the piece (obviously I had a long day yesterday, not spotting that!) - well, I suppose that's why I wondered if it was a controversial idea. I knew it certainly was ten years ago (when a number of articles mentioning the Matrix implied such an idea - that transhumanists are body-hating neo-Gnostics - and Erik Davis explicitly made the point in a sustained attack on Extropianism in his book "TechGnosis"). The motivation to write the piece came from thinking that rather than being defensive in the face of such claims, perhaps transhumanists might use the parallel (however flawed or inaccurate it may be) to our own advantage.</div>
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