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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Amon Zero<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] apple mothership<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2011/9/13 spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:11.55pt'>Speaking of which, atheist evolution-hipsters need something equivalent to a prayer or blessing, without the superstition. I don’t know what it is, or how to do something like that, but I am open to suggestion from the creative minds here<span style='color:#1F497D'>… spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>I agree entirely. I will also add that any "spiritual" aspect of transhumanism needn't be dry and flavourless just to overcompensate for a lack of superstition<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span>- A<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am against this problem a lot. I am in a motorcycle internet group. Sunday one of our best guys had a pickup truck turn left in front of him, hit the grill at about 60 mph. So far he’s lost a leg, a kidney, a spleen, broken both arms, plenty of other internal injuries including bleeding inside his brain, but he is still breathing. His daughter set up a website, in which scores of people have posted well-wishes. Of course most of them say they are praying for him. This I flatly refuse to do. I am fairly good with language, and I am very fluent in the language and thought patterns of the believers, but there just isn’t a very good way to write around the central issue of prayer. In those circumstances, any atheist-generated note of encouragement is conspicuous. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Someone somewhere must have solved this problem, for it must be common.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>