<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>A few years ago [another site] we discussed the </span><span>labor </span></div><div><span>required to maintain </span><span>solar and wind energy [highly </span></div><div><span>dispersed systems] if they </span><span>were to actually gain more </span></div><div><span>than </span><span>a niche hold in the energy </span><span>market. The number </span></div><div><span>of broken </span><span>necks falling off roofs for solar and the huge </span></div><div><span>maintenance </span><span>overhead for wind would require an </span></div><div><span>amazing shift in labor </span><span>resources and training.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Large powerplants have maintenance issues like a</span></div><div><span>normal factory. Solar and wind will be more
like</span></div><div><span>everyone going back to the days of raising their </span></div><div><span>own food and pumping their own water. There will</span></div><div><span>be real lifestyle changes required and labor diverted</span></div><div><span>from more productive enterprises. Expect power</span></div><div><span>interruptions, long waits for service calls if you can't</span></div><div><span>do the work yourself and increased prices.<var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Dennis May</span><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> john clark <jonkc@bellsouth.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 19, 2011 11:06 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ExI] solargate<br></font><wbr><div id="yiv1774579011"><table border="0" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" vAlign="top"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span>Two years ago in 2009 just before the government invested in<span style="font-weight: bold;"> </span>Solyndra they received a report from the Energy Department warning that even if the company got the loan guarantee from the government they wanted Solyndra would run out of money in September 2011.<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span>
</span>They went ahead and gave them the money, our money, anyway. <br><br>Now for something completely different, in China about 500 people demonstrated in front of a factory protesting the factory's pollution. The pollution must have been really horrible because it takes a certain amount of courage to participate in a demonstration of that sort in China. Incidentally the plant made solar panels. <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/world/asia/china-shuts-solar-panel-factory-after-anti-pollution-protests.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/world/asia/china-shuts-solar-panel-factory-after-anti-pollution-protests.html</a><br><br> John K Clark<br><br><br></span><span class="yiv1774579011BodyCopy"><b style="color: black; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
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