<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:<br>
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<a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2379">http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2379</a><br>
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It says:<br>
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<div style="margin-left: 40px;"> "neither nuclear breeding reactors nor thorium reactors will play a
significant role because of the long lead times for their development
and market penetration."<br>
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One has to ask a long lead time compared with what? Compared with the
short lead time needed for the development
and market penetration of space based power satellites or the short time
needed to turn the entire planet into one giant wind farm? <br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div class="plainMail">"Yes, you can disagree, but I'm not interested in discussing specifics of EROEI "<br>
</div></blockquote>In a ideal world energy returned on energy invested
would be be same as energy returned on money invested so the most
efficient energy source would automatically become the most popular,
but that can't happen in a place like Germany which gives huge subsidies
to "renewable" energy, much of it paid for with big taxes on nuclear
fuel that reactors use. So you end up with a distorted economy doing
idiotic things like encouraging farmers to stop growing food and make
ethanol instead which drives up food prices. <br>
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<div class="plainMail">"of dilute resource"<br>
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You mean a dilute resource like solar or wind? Energy doesn't get much more diluted than that. <br>
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<div class="plainMail">"enrichment." <br>
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Thorium needs no enrichment, in fact the Thorium you did out of the
ground is made up of only one isotope and is as I said almost as common
as lead. <br>
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<div class="plainMail">"The issue is settled for me." <br>
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So I'm going to stick my fingers in my ears and hum, la de daw daw, I can't hear you!<br>
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John K Clark<br>
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