<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kelly Anderson <A href="mailto:kellycoinguy@gmail.com">kellycoinguy@gmail.com</A> wrote:<BR></FONT>> 2011/9/21 Dennis May <<A style="RIGHT: auto" href="mailto:dennislmay@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:dennislmay@yahoo.com">dennislmay@yahoo.com</A>>:<BR>>> That is just sad.<BR>><BR>> A meme that reproduces from 1 to 15,000 in a few months</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> is anything but sad.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Depends on the meme, don't you think?</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">> I would guess that Dennis hasn't spent a lot of time in<BR>> favellas or other shanty towns. Stuart Brand gives a 6</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> minute introduction to why squatter cities are vital to the</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> future.<BR>><BR>> <A style="RIGHT: auto" href="http://www.ted.com/talks/stewart_brand_on_squatter_cities.html" target=_blank>http://www.ted.com/talks/stewart_brand_on_squatter_cities.html</A></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">I happen to think many of these spontaneous communities are good examples to study -- as opposed to the kind of top-down organization of centralized urban planning. (Of course, almost all communities combine the two -- usually with the state or elites trying to impose their master plan and failing, and then a few years later a new elite trying to do the same, dictated by whatever's fashionable at the time.)</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">> I love these people. I have spent time with them, lots of time.</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> They are more productive by far than the poor in the United</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> States, who mainly sit around waiting for checks to be</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> dropped from the magic government blimp...</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">I don't know if I'd generalize, but this might have to do with there being wealth transfers in the first place. And given some circulation of the poor out of poverty in the States, there are, I hope you'll admit, many exceptions.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">> These people are upwardly mobile, and moving fast!!!</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> For most of them, life in the squatter city is the very first<BR>> experience with electricity, and perhaps surprisingly television.</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> It opens up a whole new world of education and experience</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> and opportunity.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">I imagine some of the problem here is that few in the West would want to live in one of these places and they are probably making the comparison between life in one of these squatter cities with, say, life in an affluent suburb of, say, London or Boston rather than, say, where the people in the squatter cities came from.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">> To be able to read inside during the day would be a great</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> blessing to these folks. My only fear is that this will lead to</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> more indoor use of charcoal and other cooking fuels,</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> which is the biggest health problem faced in squatter</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">> cities around the world...</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Well, sunlight can be used for cooking too, no? Just a matter of innovating around that problem<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Regards,</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Dan</div></div></body></html>