<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>For a several year period starting about 10 years ago there was a popular scam </span></div><div><span>going on in Northern Missouri and Southern Iowa and somewhat nationally </span></div><div><span>involving an electrical generator and permanent magnet perpetual </span><span>motion </span></div><div><span>machine. They even had </span><span>segments about it on the Science Channel and other </span></div><div><span>national programs - never </span><span>really challenging it.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I discovered there is really no place to effectively report such interstate fraud.</span></div><div><span>The boys who did such a bang up job watching <span id="misspell-0" class="mark">Madoff</span> were told and did </span></div><div><span>nothing. Several local people I know lost
a few thousand apiece and other</span></div><div><span>locals lost a great deal more. It took about 1 minute to figure out it could not</span></div><div><span>work as advertised and why it would fool people.<var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Dennis May</span><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> spike <spike66@att.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October
30, 2011 11:14 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [ExI] <span id="misspell-3" class="mark">rossi</span> on cold fusion<br></font><br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv867980429WordSection1"><div class="yiv867980429MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"><http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/10/reports-on-rossi-1-mw-october-28-2011.html></div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText">The entire exercise has been a <span id="misspell-4" class="mark">lotta</span> fun for me in a way. I couldn't imagine a way for the activation energies to be overcome to cause cold fusion, but I did think of a bunch of ways to create a device which appears to make excess heat and attract investors. I don't want to waste intellectual energy thinking of ways to cheat when I have no intentions of doing something like that, but doing so is also important, for it helps identify someone who is cheating.</div><div
class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText">Suppose you have some kind of magic black box that you claim makes excess heat. You say you can create a closed loop device, but that you haven't yet, for you are not a <span id="misspell-5" class="mark">powerplant</span> guy, rather a nuclear physicist, so in the meantime you have your 500kW generator here, which you invite the local techno-proles to investigate, to instrument with ammeters and voltmeters, and whatever <span id="misspell-6" class="mark">flimflammer</span> and <span id="misspell-7" class="mark">pantookers</span> they want, so they can convince themselves exactly how much power the black box is receiving.</div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText">Unbeknown to the innocent crowd, you have rigged a waterline that appears to go to the radiator, but actually it goes right past the radiator, and dumps
the Diesel engine heat into the water surrounding your magic device. You could have young engineering students look all over and miss that. The structure upon which the generator sits is made of what looks like ordinary <span id="misspell-8" class="mark">cheapy</span> structural tubing, but that would be a clever disguise. It would carry water to the device. More than 2/3 of the energy converted by the generator goes into the radiator, so the engineering students would be going nuts measuring the electrical power output from the generator, or even the input to the black box, when the excess heat is actually coming from the waste heat from the Diesel engine spinning the generator.</div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText">I don’t know if this is how <span id="misspell-9" class="mark">Rossi</span> is doing it, but I think even I could rig a water line that wouldn't be noticed or
is hidden inside the support structure. I could get even more tricky: shunt some of the electrical power to heat the radiator, so that the students and investors would not notice that the bypassed radiator is cold. Then you rig the shunt wires to take off energy before the measurement devices which you invite the investors to install.</div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText"> </div><div class="yiv867980429MsoPlainText">spike</div><div class="yiv867980429MsoNormal"> </div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" ymailto="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>