<div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/31 john clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonkc@bellsouth.net">jonkc@bellsouth.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit" valign="top">Yeah but..., even if that is true, with a less intense beam you could still SOMETIMES communicate faster than light, SOMETIMES you could still receive the answer before you asked the question, SOMETIMES you could still produce a paradox.<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div><br>I still don't get why FTL necessarily implies time travel.<br><br>Say you have 2 points, A and B. Both start off at time T, according to their local clocks (previously synchronized to some third source - let's assume it is equidistant from A and B, so any light speed lag in the signal would have affected both synchronizations equally).<br>
<br>Someone at A asks a question at time T. The question contains a representation of T, so others can know when - according to their own clocks - it was asked.<br><br>The question is transmitted by some means - FTL or not - and arrives at point B at time T+X as measured by B's clock, X being the transit time.<br>
<br>Someone at point B transmits a reply, by some means - FTL or not, maybe or maybe not the same means as the question was sent. It arrives at point A at time T+X+Y as measured by A's clock. The answer also contains a representation of T+X.<br>
<br>Now, X and Y might be measured differently at A and B (though I suspect they would not - it is the clocks of the stationary-with-respect-to-each-other points that we are measuring by, so relativity does not dilate time relative to each other). Assuming FTL communication, it is certainly possible for the answer to arrive before A observes B receiving the question, and for B to receive and answer the question before observing A sending it. However, neither X nor Y can actually be negative, and receiving a signal before you observe its origin (which, in truth, is nothing more than receiving another signal - in this case, light, traveling slower than FTL by definition) is not actually time travel.<br>