On 10 November 2011 10:44, Giulio Prisco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com">giulio@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
re "let's try to go for a modest common point, at least to begin with,<br>
<div class="im">and see where that gets us..."<br>
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</div>Nowhere. The range of political positions here is too wide to find<br>
concrete common points. I suggest that we focus on a subset of<br>
participants instead.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, I agree that we'd never get more than a certain % agreeing, and nor should we try (not least because being right is more important than being popular, in almost all regards), however...<br>
<br>Imagine we are casting a net. Where should we aim to put the *centre* of that net?<br><br>It seems that we can agree that something is wrong in our society, and that as citizens we have not only a right but a duty to attempt correcting that wrong. My own view is that the current wrong is associated with Capitalism, but as I've said I think trade and innovation are important as a mettr of principle. <br>
<br>Couple of other constraints off the top of my head:<br><br>A number of proposed solutions strike me as problematic, and it would take a small essay to even sketch the likely problems with Socialism, Communism, Libertarianism, Fascism, & Technocracy. Some of these systems have some merit, but the moment you adopt any one as gospel then you'll eventually come back to having a major problem of one sort or another, mark my words.<br>
<br>As mentioned in the original blog post, I think the answer lies in a kind of radical democracy. The idea - no matter how "crazy" from a modern perspective - that whenever some doctrinaire system is causing problems, people should be able to tweak the system on the fly, in a purely pragmatic way.<br>
<br>An image occurs...<br><br>Imagine two mechanics looking under the bonnet (US: hood) of a car. One says "there it is - the fan belt has snapped". The other mechanic says "I cannot acknowledge the existence of fan belts as a matter of Hegelian Dialectic". <br>
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