<div class="gmail_quote">On 13 December 2011 22:43, Anders Sandberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se">anders@aleph.se</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Also, I have a hypothesis that all human based organisations (societies) I know of are immoral.<br>
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I think this is a pretty safe assumption that few ethicists would deny.<br><div class="im"></div></blockquote><div><br>I probably do not qualify as an "ethicist", but you are IMHO way too optimistic about that... :-) <br>
<br>Societies are almost invariably highly moral (and moralistic), they have very complicate and evolving sets of social rules, and they invariably do their best to rewards and enforce compliance, as well as to repress and marginalise individual and collective deviancy.<br>
<br>As to the latter, either it is the feat of people who basically share the same values, and simply infringe them but would not dream for a moment of putting them seriously into discussion; or is the feat of people adhering to a competing moral system, and in such event they usually partake in a group where internal morality, even though of a kind competing with the dominant version, is even more central to their lives than it may be the case for their other fellow citizens.<br>
<br>True "immoralism" is pretty rare occurrence, and I can hardly see how it could apply to a society as such... <br><br></div></div>-- <br>Stefano Vaj<br>