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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 27 January 2012 07:57, Giulio Prisco <<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com">giulio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>“</span>I like to think that those who want to stay in organic bodies will be<br>free to do so, those who want to upload to robotic bodies will be free<br>to do so, and those who want to migrate to synthetic scapes will be<br>free to do so (the flesher, gleaners and polices scenario in Egan's<br>Diaspora). But history shows that there are always fundamentalist<br>zealots, persuaded that their way is The Way, who want to force others<br>to follow them, and therefore I am afraid things will not be so clean<br>and simple.<span style='color:black'>”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think we have pretty much squelch disembodiment. I enjoyed reading Mike Dougherty’s post, which was refreshing. Max and I have been discussing disembodiment for many months now, approaching it from different angles and disembodiment is not logical. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I was talking with artist Sonja Baumel today and the physical/corporeal body and its relationship with time and space, and the molecules of bacterium and their architectural formations. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://imaginesciencefilms.com/2011/09/invisible/">http://imaginesciencefilms.com/2011/09/invisible/</a> It is quite different from Stelarc’s work that he calls embodied, but it seems be a Cartesian approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Giulio, I agree with you that persons ought to do what they are comfortable with and exist in whatever substrate they select. The idea of embodiment has a multitude of possibilities, my Primo Posthuman prototype is just one. That we can be a substrate-independent mind is a powerful notion the most fascinating and exciting idea around because it is deeply connected to our life expansion, and not a theoretical puzzle, such as many worlds and simulation arguments (Derrida).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Natasha</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.natasha.cc/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Natasha Vita-More</span></a><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>PhD Researcher, Univ. of Plymouth, UK<br>Chairman, Humanity+ </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Co-Editor, <i>The Transhumanist Reader<o:p></o:p></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>