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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>>…</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anders Sandberg<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Atlantic article on human reengineering with very strong reactions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 13/03/2012 12:20, Mike Dougherty wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>>…</span>I agree that's A plan, but the ONLY one?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>No, of course not. I think one of the big problems with most climate discussions is that people have formed very tight camps around certain plans, and absolutely refuse to countenance mentions of other possibilities. I suspect that real climate solutions will be messy mixes of approaches<span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span>--<span style='color:#1F497D'> </span>Anders Sandberg,<o:p></o:p></p><pre><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Any mechanical engineer will recognize that all the low hanging fruit today is in conservation. We can easily start with ape haulers because their performance specifications were developed in an era when oil came gushing out of the ground under its own pressure. Our expectation of our ape haulers to do so much, go so fast and accelerate so hard has caused us to paint ourselves into a corner, where even our smallest cars are remarkably heavy. <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Recall the specification for the original Volkwagen only needed to peak at 100 kph. If we can tolerate that one specification today, there are remarkable weight savings available. We can build new ape haulers from the ground-up, as opposed to using standard parts from existing vehicles, which are too heavy and over-sturdy for vehicles that peak at 100 kph. Even full electrics are far more practical if we can tolerate that modest top speed, although it will be better if we go with series hybrids under those conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></body></html>